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Saturday, December 03, 2005

open thread on Scene Magazine

After Chadwick's post below, most comments quipped that Chadwick hates white people (although Chadwick is emphatically white) and/or is a self-serving elitist (a compliment he proudly accepted). However, I think Sarika makes a good point:
I hate to be a critic here (well maybe not but if I don't say that I'll sound like a jerk), but I have been really unimpressed with most of the 17 comments to this piece. Are people afraid to discuss the existence of this alternate Harvard? Obviously all the stereotypes in the post don't apply to every white Anglo-Saxon Protestant, but they clearly apply to most people covered in Scene magazine. Simply saying how Chadwick is "reinforcing hurtful stereotypes" will get us nowhere in understanding sub-populations of Harvard students. Nobody has yet critiqued the veracity of Chadwick's words in relation to the magazine and in relation to dynamics between types of students -- only when that happens will this conversation be even close to productive.
I agree and, because the other thread is already so long, I offer you this open thread!

6 Comments:

At 4:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What pisses me off about Scene Magazine, beyond the simply arrogance and elitism that Chadwick so effectively lampoons, is that the authors actually think that this is what most people experience at Harvard. They have no recongnition of the fact that probably barely 10% of students have the financial means, much less the desire, to live this kind of extravagant and superficial lifestyle. What scares me, though, is that they may be more right than I would like to believe in that this may be the aspiration of many who are not already on the "Scene." If you consider how many Harvard students go into (or try to go into) what are essentially jobs in the national and international financial elite (whether at Goldman, Kinsey, Wachovia or Baine), you've got to think that Scene is representing a lot of Harvard student's aspirations. This makes me want to cry...

 
At 4:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where do I find a copy? I'm sick of reading all the back and forth without getting the chance to see what we're all talking about...

 
At 9:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

there should be some in your house...they were plenty in mine.

 
At 1:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find it hard to believe that there are so many people who keep critisizing Scene Magazine. Maybe if you people didn't sit at your computers and insult the people who created it, you too could publish a magazine more in-line with what you beleive Harvard to be. What have any of you done that is worthy of any commentary? Anyways, enjoy posting more blogs and comments. Seriously, all of you need to get a life!

 
At 2:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with the above statement. If you dont like the magazine, dont read it! There are a lot of other crappy magazines that are door dropped that claim to "give voice to" some select group that I couldnt care less about.

 
At 5:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the above two commenters are most likely scene magazine writers or editors, and if they're not I challenge them to actually post their names.

To the first of the two asking the question "what you you done that is worthy of any commentary?"

Cambridge Common has been in the Crimson a bunch, the indy, some other stuff, not to mention Golis having quotes all over heck and back. AND, it's a publication in it's own right, so I don't understand that question.

To the second, the same applies. Just because Cambridge Common editors don't have daddies that will fund their stupid projects and therefore write on free blogs as opposed to glossy magazines doesn't mean they're not trying to "give voice" to something different.

It's also funny that neither commenter actually refutes the intellectual bases of the criticisms... Probably because they wouldn't know how to if they wanted to!

 

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